GT may not be canon, but SSJ4 Vegito doesn't even exist. Add this together for the fusion (20x) and multiply it by "tens" of times and we have a multiplier range for a SSJ4 fusion of 400-2000x SSJ3. Gogeta is much more powerful than Vegito, hands down. It would be fun tho! As a Super Saiyan 4, Gogeta is 400,000. Gogeta is a little bit more powerful than Vegito Blue Kaiokenx20, period. 3. Are you stupid or what, everyone knows that potara fusion is far stronger than the normal fusion. Cba to get the scan, but as I recall he never said anything about it being stronger, just better. SSJ4 Vegito and SSJ4 Gogeta vs Thanos For the purpose of this fight Gogeta has no time limit. Then, u do 7,3 sextillions x 7,3 sextillions (‘cause fusion (both Potara & Dance) is X’s power x Y’s power) = 5,4x10^(43) (w/ is Vegito blue) & FINALLY x 20 (Kaioken) = 1,08x10^(45). Without him stating its a stronger form that 'better' would only attest to the time issue the Dance has. Gogeta (ゴジータ Gojīta) appears in Dragon Ball AF, even reaching Super Saiyan 5. Deal with it you son of a bitch, Multiversal? All this is from the GT Perfect Files & is backed up by the series itself, so it's not "a wank made by the creators", like some people say it supposedly """is"""... proofs: https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/c3b9895323aec2ec1270f631b05cd1cbb53e769fr1-480-353v2_hq.jpg , https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/cb777edf07d29a4057f048c7232cb088756878d7r1-480-352v2_hq.jpg , https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/cd7b744cf018477a8f23133d03d7e04dcf572b88r1-480-356v2_hq.jpg , https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/e6768d9b70552c0895297cf12914307c94e4d7ear1-480-353v2_hq.jpg so it should be, at least 10K (bruits wave amount multiplied) x 50; 10K x 400 (ssj3 multiplier, 'cause Baby Vegeta Golden Oozaru had his SSJ3 hair) or what I first said (10K x 500). Nope, u buffoon, SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. https://aminoapps.com/c/dragonballz/page/blog/the-greatest-highballed-scale-for-dragonball-gt/vdNT_nuwexqZ7XM8n2w5b73dp4jxGBm Here u go, u have to scroll a bit tho. The Fusion Dance requires the two users to be at an equal level of power. ssj2 vegito colud probaly beat ssj4goku SSj 4 Goku vs, ssj3 Vegito. As a Super Saiyan, Gogeta is a 5,000. Well anyone who Knows DBZ would know that ssj4 gogeta would win.For one ssj4 gogeta is ten times stronger than ss2 vegito and ssj4 vegito is still weeker that goget ssj4, plus in that 30 min ssj4 gogeta would end it in 15 min! If it was SB2 and it's movie Gogeta than this would be a close match. I pulled nothing out of my ass, cretin. Where is this info from, or like Astner said is it just speculations. Super announced a new information about Vegito that his form is only lasts for an hour but at SSB it was not an hour at all either, actually SSB Vegito defused more quickly than SSJ4 Gogeta. Gohan at this point was more powerful than I think anybody else, now in Buu. Now onto Gogeta, first things first, Metamol Dance & Potara earrings are EQUALS! Its a stalemate on power but fusion with portal earrings lasts indefinite ultimately favoring Vegeto. Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. This means that the numbers don't come from nowhere. SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. SSJ4 Goku is at least 10x SSJ Vegetto. You didn't "end" the discussion. True, but if he did, SSJ4 Vegito would beat the crap out of that 10 to 30 mintue fusion. now look at ss4 gogeta, their powers must be identical meaning goku could not use his full strength even though he was still more powerfull than vegeta, and if they used potara fusion is everlasting and limitless in terms of their individual power. If it was SB1 rather than SB2 that was said to be stronger (don't remember) then SSJ4 Goku would be at least 20x stronger. Vegito hands down!! SS4 Vegito had the power to thrash Omega with all DB absorbed with not problem. I'm not sure what the first part of that has anything to do with what I posted or how that can't be countered with them powering up /after/ fusing. With in mind that SSJ4 is not much stronger than Golden Oozaru (SSJ x Oozaru) while SSB is SSJ x SSG, and the fact that GT Base can't stomp a Buu tier opponent while RoF Base can stomp tiers many times stronger than Buu, SSJ4 Gogeta really would get the Yamcha treatment in this fight. Upload your creations for people to see, favourite and share. To put it in short, it's been proven SSGSSS or SSB Vegito is stronger by monstrous leagues. It's been stated by the Kais that Potara >>>> dance. Uhh no. Gogeta beats Vegito even if Vegito gets SSJ4. Yeah, don't think so, he'd be lucky enough to be Universal, Vegito Blue would be the one that's more likely Multiversal XD, so i won't deal with it you Moron, of course he is even GT Goku base form is a universe buster he shaked the whole hell just by powering up a bit and I hope you knows that the hell is big as the universe. Nope, this just proves that SSJ4 is TRUE Ki control, meanwhile SS(shit) blue is not. vegeto stomp...Potara Earring > Fusion Dance...that's a fact.. This gives a 4000x multiplier of ssj3. SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. See more ideas about dragon ball, dragon ball super, gogeta and vegito. Experiment with DeviantArt’s own digital drawing tools. Yes, as SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. ok first i want 2 state the fact that old kai only said that the potara fusion was better he never said y it could have been just becuz of the unlimited time so lets say theyre even also ppl r saying o well 1 know big bang kamehameha ppl they both they r exactly the same 2 mind put in 1 they both know bigbang/final kamehameha but vegito wins becuz of unlimited time n they r both very kocky so that would waste alot of time. So Goku trained for 15 years, between Z & GT, during the 1st 10 years it’s likely that he (& the other Z fighters) got 2 Zenkais/day, w/ is 22 (2x11), so it’s 10x365 = 3650, x22 it comes out as 80300, & then he goes training Uub intensively for 5 straight years, an estimation of 4 Zenkais/day is fair, so it is 44 x 1825 (‘cause 5x365=1825), w/ is 80300 (again). So 28105 x 198 million = 5 trillion units at the start of the Buu arc and then, there were 3 boosts during this saga, so 33 x 5 trillion = 183 trillion. Aug 23, 2020 - Explore Stacey Green's board "ssj4 vegito & gogeta", followed by 533 people on Pinterest. Goku seems not to be aware of it, and Im sure the people … He battles his evil clone and sometimes he even is the hero of the day. So 2 * 20-99. There is no canonical formula for either fusion. Ssjb Vegito was taking damage from zamasu here and there. Also the potara gives a power boost for rivals which is not stated for the dance. SSB is terrible weak like everything else from this shitty parody show, Shaking Hell doesn't make Base Goku Universal XD, Beerus nullified an attack that was going to destroy the Mortal Universe, the Entire Afterlife (Hell AND Heaven) and the Kaioshin Realm located outside the Macrocosm while he was Suppressed to BoG God Goku level, SSJ4 Gogeta nullified Omega's Attack that was also going to destroy the Universe over time, So BoG God Goku and Heavily Suppressed Beerus also have a feat that's comparable to SSJ4 Gogeta, if not stronger, Base Goku also gathered Energy throughout the Universe and that was capable of one shotting Omega, while SSJ4 Gogeta couldn't one shot Omega with a Big Bang Kamehameha, Goku and Vegeta then surpassed that same God Goku and Suppressed Beerus from BoG in their Base forms during RoF, then can stack SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3 (Only for Goku obviously) God again and then SSJ Blue which is SSJ God going SSJ, Then Prior to the ToP, Goku overpowered a stronger Hit without using Kaioken, meaning Goku and Vegeta both had gotten over 10x stronger since RoF, meaning Base Goku and Vegeta are over 10x stronger then BoG God Goku and Suppressed Beerus and over 10x Macrocosm/Low Multiversal level, then Base Vegito scales above the Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta that scale above Kaioken x10 Blue Goku that fought Hit, then Vegito can stack SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, God and Blue on top of his Base lol, Also, "Shitty Parody Show" right XD, GT is more a parody then Super is, Super is actually Canon, while GT is just a Non Canon side story, also, Super in terms of ratings has done better then GT, not to mention has over twice the amount of episodes, also, Blue and God make SSJ4 look pathetically weak in comparison, at least the God forms don't turn Goku into a Furry. I think He could even be stronger. OK, now I'll give my opinion. SSJ4 Vegito is A What if Character Meaning What if Goku and Vegeta used the Potara Fusion to Fight Omega Shenron Being A Fusion of 2 Super Saiyan 4"s Vegito"s Powers are Increased By 10% Unlike Gogeta He Didnt Fool Around when Fused and Easily Beat Omega Shenron in Battle He Used the 100X Final Kamehameha To Make Omega Shenron Spit Out the Dragon Balls Making him Revert back into … Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. Now in the Hero's Legacy comics, it states that Vegito is possibly stronger than a SSJ4. Vegito wins the fight but has to live with chi chi and Bulma for the rest of his life. BloodRain already ended it months ago. Haven't seen the fight, but is it as one sided as SSJ Vegito vs. Buuhan or SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Omega Shenron? SSJ3 Vegito FTW! Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. I think Vegeto ssj3 is not far from Gogeta ssj4. 80300 x 2 =160600, so we do this x 183 trillion (end of Buu Saga remember) & that’s 29 quintillions, for BASE GT Goku ONLY, so then u redo 29 quintillions x itself & obtains 8,7x10^(38). Then (Dreams beings dreams again), the plot somehow changed to Goku vs. Vegeta as the last battle and SSJ4 Vegeta actually beats SSJ4 Red hair Goku. Pobre gogeta.. va a recibir la paliza de su vida... Vegito would be killing Gogeta in a single blink XD, super saiyan blue vegito cant win against super saiyan 5 vegito, I think he would win by default due to SSJ5 Vegito not being real XD, also, where did SSJ5 Vegito come from? Okay, so this isn’t exactly a reason why Gogeta is stronger than Vegito, but it should be. Since we never see SS4 Gogeta its hard to tell who would be stronger. In Dragon Ball GT, Goku and Vegeta fused into Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta so this will be a first for the anime.After seeing a new Vegito form in Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken Vegito… If either isn't true than Goku wins Don't make me laugh, if you seriously believe those random numbers you pulled out of your ass, your IQ is below 0, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1hYJntH9Gw&t=148s, Huh, guess he indeed must’ve fucked off, good riddance. akira toyriama said that vegito is the strongest charecter in dragon ball z I understand that, but ssj4 vegito still would lose. It makes SSJ4 Gogeta comparable to SSB Vegito Besides that SSB Vegito cant handle Zamasu Black such easy as SSJ4 Gogeta handled Omega Shenron. Gogeta Vs. Vegito: Which Dragon Ball Fusion Form is Stronger? As the SSJ4 boost is 1.600.000 times base (‘cause Oozaru is 10 & SSJ is 50 + it’s likely that a x8 boost is applied when a Saiyan pass from Golden Oozaru to SSJ4, which comes as 4000 & 4000 x 400 is 1.600.000): 160000 x 8,7x10^(38) = 1,4x10^(45). If we take use SSJ3 as our baseline, then two SSJ4 characters have 10x multipliers each. Super Saiyan 4 is a formed obtained from Oozaru. I'd rely on that more than the online scans since those are pretty ass. Well he couldn’t even hit SSB Gogeta. No, it's pretty clear the Old Kai is just talking about pure strength, otherwise he'd have mentioned that as the reason at that moment, instead of later on when Goku asks: Actually, the Fusion Dance merely ADDS up the power of two individuals with the SAME POWER LEVELS. SSB Vegito and Gogeta do rock-paper-scissors to settle who effortlessly one-shots SSJ4 Gogeta first. As the SSJ4 boost is 1.600.000 times base (‘cause Oozaru is 10 & SSJ is 50 + it’s likely that a x8 boost is applied when a Saiyan pass from Golden Oozaru to SSJ4, which comes as 4000 & 4000 x 400 is 1.600.000): 160000 x 8,7x10^(38) = 1,4x10^(45). Turns out, they used too much power, and they can't even go Blue. However, given that anime series' non-canonical status, it is unclear if this is official. So 28105 x 198 million = 5 trillion units at the start of the Buu arc and then, there were 3 boosts during this saga, so 33 x 5 trillion = 183 trillion. SSj3 Vegito would be way to powerful for SSj4 Gogeta This is the best argument and was exactly what I was thinking. A Zenkai Boost is either 10,5 or 11x the original strength of the Sayian, & during the Android/Cell arc there were at least 6 Zenkais, 6x11 is 66, so it’s 3 million x 66 which is 198 million units 4 base Goku, at the end of this saga. All we know is that it's supposed to be better and it has no time limit. Now onto Gogeta, first things first, Metamol Dance & Potara earrings are EQUALS! You're just parroting him. Vegeto ssj1 was at least as strong as Gogeta ssj3. The only reason they didn't have to in the case of SSJ4 Gogeta is because they were already both SSJ4s and thus equal in power. I think you're exaggerating a little on that one. ... Vegito wins, but SSJ1 vs. SSJ4? The craziest, ultimate fight happens between SSJ4 Vegito and the ultimate villain as the red volcanic planet crumbles (Again, DBS Broly got really close to my dream), but then SSJ4 vegito defuses. Why you’ll ask me, ’cause it was stated, shortly after the release of the Broly movie that Gogeta is as strong as his ‘bro’. In the case with Goku and Vegeta, this means that Goku would have to power down before being able to fuse effectively, and even then they'd hae to be in perfect sync. Goku and Vegeta underwent vigorous training in Super, and their base forms are light years ahead of their GT counterparts. with would still put them ahead by a nice margen. The Perfect Files, volume 2 I believe, states that SSJ4 Gogeta is a few dozen times stronger than a SSJ4. This is probably one of the most intense sprite animations I've seen!! And since ssj4 multiplayer is unknown, even without the potara earrings ssj4 Gogeta could actually still be far stronger than ssjb Vegito because of … Is this movie or hypothetical canon Gogeta? So get dunked on! And since his appearances have been limited and short, it is difficult to tell if his personality is a separate one, or a composite of both Goku and Vegeta, although at Super Saiyan 4 it seems that his personality is like that of Vegito (which leans more tow… we see gogeta as a super saiyan yet not a ss3 even though goku could become ss3, where as if they had the potara earrings and became vegito they would be immensely more powerfull because goku could unlock the power of ss3 without actually becoming one. Well anyone who Knows DBZ would know that ssj4 gogeta would win.For one ssj4 gogeta is ten times stronger than ss2 vegito and ssj4 vegito is still weeker that goget ssj4, plus in that 30 min ssj4 gogeta would end it in 15 min! - SSJ4 drains fusion time by 66% - SSB drains fusion time by 33% well ssj5 vegito is from dragon ball absalon and ssj5 goku and vegeta are from dbaf, Vegito blue drains 1 hour fusion in 5-8 minutes, this is really good artwork, and i like that you used the tournament of power for the background, nice work, https://aminoapps.com/c/dragonballz/page/blog/the-greatest-highballed-scale-for-dragonball-gt/vdNT_nuwexqZ7XM8n2w5b73dp4jxGBm, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/c3b9895323aec2ec1270f631b05cd1cbb53e769fr1-480-353v2_hq.jpg, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/cb777edf07d29a4057f048c7232cb088756878d7r1-480-352v2_hq.jpg, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/cd7b744cf018477a8f23133d03d7e04dcf572b88r1-480-356v2_hq.jpg, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/e6768d9b70552c0895297cf12914307c94e4d7ear1-480-353v2_hq.jpg. SSJ4 drains fusion time more than SSB (believe it or not). The guys didn't even last ten minutes which is SSJ4 Gogeta's limit. No, vegeto ssj3 IS stronger than Gogeta ssj4. His DNA was used along with his potara counterpart vegito to create Bowen. Not my fault that u don't have an ounce of it, Logical? A top evolution form of the saiyans. The only thing given si that potara is stronger. Omega is a Multiverse buster and Gogeta 4 can kills him with only one finger (stated in show and in the perfect files). One outclassed their opponent while the other kept up to par before defeating them. No. Find out what other deviants think - about anything at all. Vegito is cool in his own right and we don’t deny his fancy earrings, but come on, take a look at the truly supreme being: That sick jacket (which only appears on those who successfully pulled off the fusion dance, by the way) that extra spiky hair, and that stoic look. Vegetto Blue beats the crap out of Gogeta but defuses into base Goku and base Vegeta. Xeno Gogeta's appearance is identical to his main counterpart's. Then things get a little more complicated, I’ll do Vegito first: so, after gaining SSG (which is a boost of x800K, to base power, ’cause the 5 Saiyans who give their most powerful aura (yeah, it’s a highball 4 Vegito)) so 183 trillion x 800K = 147 quintillions, x50 for SSB is 7,3 sextillions. A Zenkai Boost is either 10,5 or 11x the original strength of the Sayian, & during the Android/Cell arc there were at least 6 Zenkais, 6x11 is 66, so it’s 3 million x 66 which is 198 million units 4 base Goku, at the end of this saga. Gogeta then wins but feels bad that he won in such a lame way. 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